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* R e n e g a d e L e g i o n *
Carding in the '90s
by
The Knight
The Night Elite BBS (617)623.7151 (RL HeadQ)
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3/17/91
It used to be that a person could steal a carbon and find a house
that no one was occupying during the day, stick up a 'Please
leave package' note, and your package would be there the next day
via overnight delivery.
This, of course no longer works almost at ALL anymore unless your
in a relatively unpopulated state. And, you'll need a lot more
information than a carbon can give you to even get it mailed. I
have outlined a step by step carding method that HAS WORKED for
me and has ALWAYS gotten stuff through to the drop every attempt.
I will go through each step THOROUGHLY as if you were a COMPLETE
beginner to carding just in case you ARE.
1........Gathering Card Information
The first step is getting credit card #'s. The BEST way I have
found to do this is to use CBI. You will need to get the
following info from CBI:
Credit card #
Name of bank
Social Security #
Address
FULL name
After you get that information from CBI, it is neccessary to call
information and get the persons REAL phone #. This will NOT be
used, but you'll need it just in case, I'll explain later.
2........Setting up
The setup part is fairly easy, and this involves a slight change
from past methods of carding. As a 'Phone number you can be
reached at', You must provide a Direct Dial VMB. So a Direct Dial
VMB which will pick up with YOUR greeting is a must. This will
impersonate a home answering machine.
Change the greetin to "Hello, I can not answer your call...."
etc.
Last of all, Have ALL information ACCESSABLE and EASY to find.
Tips:
- Run the card through a CC Checker for $1 if you got the
CC from CBI.
Example: 800-554-2265 Bank : 1067 #
Merchant: 52 #
Type : 10 # (MC) 20 # (Visa)
Amount : 100# ($1.00)
Exp.date: 0193 (1/93, make it
up,the exp.
date is NEVER
checked)
- DON'T use American Express, they always call the owner's
number EVEN if you tell them your not at home!
3........Ordering
This is when you actually PLACE the call. You MUST stay calm and
relax. Tell them what you want to order, the key is to pretend
like the person with the card is YOU. Play actor, ASK about
prices FIRST, and DON'T overdo it from one place. Example: Just
order a loaded 486 with a 200 Mb hard drive, DON'T go and say
"Yeah, can I have a gig on that?"
Then, just order!
When it comes to credit card time, remember these:
- Do NOT order it OVERNIGHT, Send it 3rd day or something, I
used the same VMB for 2 months before the police got around to
shutting it down. Overnight delivery is a flag for them now.
- If they ask for "the number on the back of the card" or "The
issuing bank" (If CBI didn't give you the issuing bank, or you
didn't know what the initials were)
say: "Well, I'm not looking at my card right now." If you need
to, use phrases like:
"My card is in my wallet in the car, I REALLY don't have
time to go dig it out right now. IS THIS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM!?"
They HATE that phrase and I usually get a turnaround of
80% saying, no sir, never mind. The Key is, ACT LIKE YOU HAVE
A DATE IN 25 MINUTES DOWNTOWN, in other words, act rushed
and pissed off. MOST BUSINESSMEN ARE, Don't kiss their asses
because businessmen don't!!
- Your VMB is your ANSWERING MACHINE, if they catch the
difference in area code of VMB and Billing address, tell them its
your summer house or relatives house, but DON'T BRING IT UP.
- If they ask for # at Billing address, give them the REAL #,
they will check with Information only, but be sure to emphasize
that the number you gave them for the billing address is NOT the
number your at! Make SURE you say you can be contacted at the VMB
number for the next week or so.
- If they tell you they can't ship to a different address than
the billing address, stand FIRM, say "Is there ANY way I can
change this? Can you call my bank or something?!!?" Sound
ANNOYED, DON'T give up and in about 40% of my calls, the person
changed their mind.
- Do NOT check your VMB every 10 minutes, that looks weird.
- DO NOT even TRY to get HST's, those are flagged UP the BUTT,
and I'd GUESS that soundblasters will be soon.
- Tell them you NEED the stuff delivered on X day, and INSIST,
KEEP insisting! Make SURE. Tell them, "I need to do work on
XX and I want the machine then"
- If you are sending a LOT of machines etc. to ONE drop, Make
the package ATTENIONED to John Smith or whoever, have ALL the
packages addressed to the same person. Tell them your sendin it
to a business associate, relative, wife, whatever. We don't need
the stuff flagged down at Fed Ex.
The key phrase is "I really don't have time for this"
And remember: YOUR the CUSTOMER, they don't know you AREN'T the
card holder, for christ sake, ACT LIKE IT!! DON'T take second
rate service!!
4........Drops
The drop is very important nowadays, you can NOT just leave a
note, so don't even bother.
4 methode
1. Vacant House Method
Put blankets up on windows in house and sit in and sign for
packages. This method, works, and there are no future problems.
FUTURE problems, they MAY not beleive you live there etc. so this
method is a BIT risky
2. Freind's house - Robbed method
Tell a freind to sign at HIS house, then call the police at
6.00pm and say "I JUST came home and my door was ajar and some
lights were on, I Don't think anything was stolen, but what
should I do?"
Make sure ALL stuff is cleared out and its safer if the person
doesn't even have a computer. When the police come by asking
about packages on X day, bring up your break in. To be safer,
send something one day late and refuse to sign for it and bring
it up to the police.
3. Freind's house - Vacant method
Sign for the stuff at a freind's house, GET IT OUT, and when the
police come say " I was on vacation for 3 weeks, I don't know
ANYTHING about packages" There's NOTHING they can do, and your
set.
The advantages to the last 2 methods are:
You won't get bored if nothing comes
You won't get caught breaking & Entering
You won't get caught by Fed ex guy and not get stuff
I have done #2 AND #3 with success, so it CAN be done.
Extra tip: Try US Mail, they haven't caught on yet to the drop
deal!
Have fun and don't get caught!
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RL